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345: Co-Fermenting Cider with Beer


Head Brewer and proprietor Drew Phillips of 4 Phantoms Brewery in Greenfield Massachusetts spoke on People Traditions and the Co-Fermentation of Wort and Apple Juice and  a co-ferment referred to as Previous Gods (8.0%). There have been two talks on the topic, with the primary being November third and the second on November sixth as a part of CiderDays 2.0 compilation of occasions. This episode is from the November sixth discuss that befell on the brewery.

Ep 345 Drew Phillips speaking at Four Phantoms Brewery

Drew is not any stranger to fermenting having frolicked brewing first in Oregon after which cider at Artifact Cider Challenge in Florence ,Massachusetts earlier than opening 4 Phantoms over a 12 months in the past.

He has an curiosity in outdated recipes and pushing the envelope with particular ferments and Previous Gods is a superb illustration of what might be finished, when finished properly. (Learn: Previous Gods is scrumptious!!)

Folks Traditions Round Co-fermenting Farmhouse Ale and Apple Juice

Drew notes that traditionally for farmhouse ales and cider, there wasn’t such a delineation between beer, cider and mead as there’s now. He notes how that in Wassail songs , the decision for mixing cider, beer, and elderberry boughs all into the identical beverage. Using Hydrometers or the science of acid titration are latest variations to a farmhouse fermenter’s device field.

Up till the nineteenth century you’d brew by style and if the wort didn’t style good you’d grind up extra grain and mash it in.

Drew notes that apple juice doesn’t have nice constructing blocks for yeast well being whereas wort does have Yan (Yeast Assimiable Vitamins), thus Farmhouse ales as such the place usually blended in with recent pressed apple juice or cider.

In one of these co-fermentation there isn’t any boiling of the wort and there’s no addition of hops. Thus the grain in mashed (which requires heating water to extract the wort) after which is mixed in with recent pressed apple juice.

The Making of Previous Gods at 4 Phantoms

  • 100 gallons of unpasteurized Mcintoush apple juice.
  • No yeast inoculation
  • Mix in with Uncooked ale – typical farmhouse type
    • The wort was not boiled –
    • No hops
    • Mashed into an entire mash tun of birch branches

345 Four Phantoms outside building

Contact information for 4 Phantoms Brewery

Web site: https://www.fourphantoms.web/

Handle: 301 Wells Road, Greenfield, MA 01301

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